new to this fly thing

[schnip]

that was a powerful statement..thanks lol

 

[easternshores]

Schnip, I told you to be careful about going to the dark side. Now you have a member suggesting a Sage rod for steelies. Just wait until you want multiple fly rods for each weight class because of different lengths, flex, and action... you're gonna go broke!

 

[Madriverfisher]

cc didtn sage stop making the z-axis and replaced it with the sage one with is what i am looking at getting there spey 5 wt

 

[ChaseChrome]

cc didtn sage stop making the z-axis and replaced it with the sage one with is what i am looking at getting there spey 5 wt

Indeed Mad...the Sage One is a response to Orvis Helios (awesomely light!!). You can still get the "Z" here and there. Question though; why a 5 wght spey?
I'm using an 11foot switch 6wght. Why not go a little heavier and have enough wood for steel...jmo.

cc

 

[Madriverfisher]

Well I have an 8 wt switch and it alittle heavy the reason I want a 5 wt Spey is kinda a cross over rod somthing I can use for steelhead then also when I go down to michigan in the summer to fish rivers like the au'sable and manastiee I want to expand my two handed arsenal

 

[roska]

I own hellios
Love it all day fishing feels feather light
Tried buddy's one very firm every cast really accurate
But, I love my hellions more. ^^

Jason

 

[Madriverfisher]

Good to know I will have to try the hellios too but know orvis is upgrading to the orvis hellios 2 witch is lunching later this month but not a two handed rod yet in the single handed I'm kinda excited to try sages new circa it's supposed to be slower action kinda like casting a bambo rod. I think is would be great for casting small dries but at 850 a rod I might be waiting for a bit

 

[schnip]

my fina question is do you guys have reels for all of these or do you use one rell for the most part---buying rods is one thing but a new reel every time wow lol

 

[Madriverfisher]

I do and in some cases different spools for thosse reels it gets pretty bad fly fishing is like crack and getting
new gear just feeds the addiction

 

[ChaseChrome]

I own hellios
Love it all day fishing feels feather light
Tried buddy's one very firm every cast really accurate
But, I love my hellions more. ^^

Jason

I find the helios is not as crisp as Sage...I have an 8 wght XP which casts like a rifle, mind you it's technically more demanding. Helios is a little more forgiving for the rookie.

Although as Mad has said Sage is re-engineering some of their rods with slower mid section action (some calling it a more "classic" trout rod).

It's what you're comfort zone is...get as many rods into your hands as you can to get a sense of what fits your own particular requirements. A little like float rods too, a more gradual taper gives you a more continuous arc and slower rod...mushy in the handle though and not enough guts to move those cinder block Chinooks--my preference would be a faster taper with more power...

Less talk!! More fishing!!

 

[AKnook]

The fish don't know what rod/reel your using. Sage is the mercedez of fly rods. Great rods yes, cast like a dream but a little steep in price if you have mouthes to feed. I have two!

 

[schnip]

i have my own mouth to feed---cant see myself spending more than i did---retailed out at 600 with line and a reel---had a little deal on the side but thats another story---i think i will be fine with what i have most people dont start out with this kinda good stuff--and they seem to do fine...some of the best performers in alot of things i do use older stuff and do better than the gear junkies kile myself....i know a guy that glues his club heads back on with epoxy and hes a scratct golfer...


as i drive to bass pro for some cool flies and maybe a little fishing hat lol

 

[AKnook]

Nothing wrong with having good quality gear. Expensive yes, but worth it for performance and warranty. I space my pruchases out. Also, the permanent fund dividend all Alaska residents receive in October helps with these purchases.

 

[Madriverfisher]

aknook is right you don't need sage or Scott they become more wants then needs st croix make good rods i have a few of them at love them but the more i case sage rods the more i want them lol god i hope i win lotto max tomorrow

 

[schnip]

i might move to alaska........lol

 

[AaronKrick]

Dude--I used a 6 wght on the Miramichi for Atlantics!! it will do you well man...no worries

Agreed, 6 weights are by far the most versatile fly rods there are.

 

[AaronKrick]

+1, CC will be able to give you great insight on flyfishing.

I'd give my 2cents but I just started not long ago so don't have much of an input. I do have one piece of advice that I can pass onto you that I got from somebody else. If you've never tried fly fishing before, you could get a starter combo kit first to learn the basics. A lot of people give up on fly fishing while learning the basics, so it would suck to purchase a 400+ first outfit just to find out you don't like it.

I started with the scientific anglers kit, I personally think it's a great kit for beginners to learn from.

I started with a scientific anglers rod too, still have it in fact, great rod.

 

[easternshores]

Hahaha, Schnip is getting sucked into this hobby so badly. You absolutely HAVE to have each rod paired with a reel. In fact, if you are going to use different line weights for a single rod, I'd suggest you get an individual reel for each line. No excuses. Don't question the logic, just feed the hunger.... I'm just playing with ya.

Having said that, I believe there are multiple components that make up the sport of fly fishing. I might not be listing all the components, but from the top of my head 1) as a way to catch fish 2) as a way to fly cast (think performing arts) 3) as a way to collect gear and 4) as a way to collect stories. These are not mutually exclusive, as catching fish and casting well can go hand in hand in most situations. Also, each category has multiple subcategories. Take 1) as a way to catch fish, for instance. You could dead drift, czech nymph, swing, use dry flies, use a streamer etc... and each individual method can be optimally performed using the proper gear and the proper cast/technique. I don't even want to get started with choosing a suitable fly (and tying flies, if you are in to that), or scouting and reading the surroundings you are fishing correctly.

I've gone off tangent... but I'm just trying to give you a taste of what you COULD end up spending a lot of time thinking about, Schnip.

Your Orvis Clearwater rod will do you fine in the GTA and surrounding tributaries. None of these tributaries are extremely large and demanding. The one thing you MIGHT find hard is to actually find space on certain parts of the rivers to fly cast. Learning how to roll cast will come in handy.

Your Orvis Access reel will be more than adequate for summer fishing... unless you want to join me this coming summer in pursuit of carp .

 

[ChaseChrome]

The fish don't know what rod/reel your using. Sage is the mercedez of fly rods. Great rods yes, cast like a dream but a little steep in price if you have mouthes to feed. I have two!

Good thing I purchased my rods BEFORE I got in too deep with my three...

You will find, as I said, the Clearwater and reel you have is going to be GREAT...love to colour too btw. You will likely be picking up the odd utility rod as a backup...some nice Scotts out there...I have a 6wght I pair up with a Bauer reel and that thing has been through more battles than anything else I own...

In fact the line I have on that setup doesn't even float anymore

Anyway guys this is far more enjoyable than discussing Islander or KP, Raven or Loomis.....

ciao
cc

 

[schnip]

eastern...i wanna learn the overhand and roll cast--see you saturday---i have some stuff for you ---and then i will watch you cast and learn this stuff....i have already been practicing at the office with the rod apart not using my wrist and doing the 10 and 2 snaparoo....i am in deep trouble here man this is gonna make me single...lol--oh and where to have my leader when i start false casting and also shhoting line---lots to learn