The origin of the insanity

[hightechdecks]

I am fairly new to fishing wilmot creek but really dialed it in this year. it is a gem of a trib and has some really nice gravel which i'm sure is the reason for its huge production. the genetics of the fish from this creek is spectacular, large strong fish with vibrant colours. Fishing the slaughter pool for the first time in late August was a highpoint in my memories seeing 1000 salmon along with scores of browns and rainbows fishing shoulder to shoulder with fellow Anglers but having a great time doing it many chrome hens being caught and the majority of them going back..... NOW thats how fishing should be. going back in early oct was a total change you could smell the rot from a mile away and walking over the hill and seeing that magnificent pool had been turned into a landfill site made my heart sink. I did some research on the area and found some interesting facts that really contributed to the salmonid insanity that takes hold every year during that full harvest moon in late august.
1) first reported Chinook salmon taken by recreational angling in Lake Ontario 1870's
2) first rainbow trout raised in captivity for the purpose of stocking in Ontario Samuel Wilmot of Newcastle in 1890's
3) last reported native atlantic salmon caught by recreation angler early 1900's
4)estimated annual steelhead run of 15,000 fish
this is creek is rich with sport fishing heritage and deserves way more respect than its been getting from what i see.......BIG PROPS to all the steelheaders if any of you are out there who were involved with the cleanup this year didn't get involved personally in the big push but took out one pretty good load in my pickup in Oct

 

[JaysonMarion]

There's no way Wilmot gets 15,000 bows.

The ganny gets the biggest run and it was around 6k in the spring.

 

[getin]

I am fairly new to fishing wilmot creek but really dialed it in this year. it is a gem of a trib and has some really nice gravel which i'm sure is the reason for its huge production. the genetics of the fish from this creek is spectacular, large strong fish with vibrant colours. Fishing the slaughter pool for the first time in late August was a highpoint in my memories seeing 1000 salmon along with scores of browns and rainbows fishing shoulder to shoulder with fellow Anglers but having a great time doing it many chrome hens being caught and the majority of them going back..... NOW thats how fishing should be. going back in early oct was a total change you could smell the rot from a mile away and walking over the hill and seeing that magnificent pool had been turned into a landfill site made my heart sink. I did some research on the area and found some interesting facts that really contributed to the salmonid insanity that takes hold every year during that full harvest moon in late august.
1) first reported Chinook salmon taken by recreational angling in Lake Ontario 1870's
2) first rainbow trout raised in captivity for the purpose of stocking in Ontario Samuel Wilmot of Newcastle in 1890's
3) last reported native atlantic salmon caught by recreation angler early 1900's
4)estimated annual steelhead run of 15,000 fish
this is creek is rich with sport fishing heritage and deserves way more respect than its been getting from what i see.......BIG PROPS to all the steelheaders if any of you are out there who were involved with the cleanup this year didn't get involved personally in the big push but took out one pretty good load in my pickup in Oct

Agree, it is a mess there. I used to go there for fishing but not anymore. Dominated by a certain group of people whose fishing style is unique (dropshot with 2-4 hooks above the sinker, unitl they feel a fish is pasing by their line, jerk the rod to snag the fish with one of their hooks). They muscle you out if you are not one of them

 

[RiverNinja]

There's no way Wilmot gets 15,000 bows.

The ganny gets the biggest run and it was around 6k in the spring.

^+1

I haven't fished wilmot in well over a decade.. It was a mess then and it doesn't look like things have improved...

 

[hightechdecks]

i thought the ganny got more too last number i remember seeing was 10,000 back around yr 2000, 15000 fish was the number i pulled off the wilmot clubs webpage. all i know is its hard to drive the extra half hour now. do you know anything about natural reproduction in the rouge west guy last week tols me there is none but catching lots of fish with no clips. used to catch lots of small residents 10 yrs ago but now its seem like all baitfish species.

 

[hightechdecks]

lol i had one of the powerpro guys cast onto my line intentionally to snag a fish off it after busting 5 from the pool right in front of him,thankfully the seasons change and only the hardcores show up in the -10 windchill. there is some really nice water trough the thurne valley that hold lots of fish well before it closes not to much pressure either, lots of wood in the water though its why i run 10 pound ironsilk as main on my floatrod

 

[Dilligaf0220]

Twenty years ago you could fish the CNR hole on the Monday after opener and have it all to yourself. You're right about the big brawny strain that has naturalized there, used to have a few heartstopping moments of peeking into a pool and seeing a pod of a dozen steelhead and all of them over 20lbs. It was pretty much ignored for the longest time until Italo Chucklehead & Hank Snagglepuss filmed a dozen episodes there in the closed sections. Last time I fished it was in January and even then there were half a dozen Yurps snagging trout out of the S-Bends. Used to love that trib and still fish it once or twice a year, but now it's with a flippin' stick bouncing cranks through the brush where the loogans can't bother me. Wilmot steel tucked up under the cedars love gobbling the hardware.

The Ganny is the most overrated trib on Lake O, probably the province. It had a good few years back in the 80's when extra heavy floods in the spring blew out tons of silt and exposed acres of fresh new spawning gravel, once those silted in again I stopped going.

The 'Geen has the biggest trout run in the province, getting close to 20k.

 

[hightechdecks]

i took a few fish on j7s there, still kind of new to the lure side of the game my buddy carries a 7 ft with him always w/ a skunk f-5 calls it his dinner ticket ....never fished saugeen always passed it up for lucknow creek lots of guys talk about it on here though

 

[hightechdecks]

wilmot brown caught back before it closed

 

[troutchaser]

wilmot brown caught back before it closed

If you C&R dont grab the fish by the gills its just healthier for the fish

 

[hightechdecks]

If you C&R dont grab the fish by the gills its just healthier for the fish

this is true i wasn't gonna post the pic because of that but i'm carefull with them and find when you have them by the gill plate the likelyhood of dropping them on there head is way less. i have actually been holding fish upside down alot it just seems they are way more docile when doing this, the worst for fish by far is holding them vertical by the gill plate leaving their weight unsupported.

 

[rocheleauc]

If you C&R dont grab the fish by the gills its just healthier for the fish

x2 :mrgreen:

 

[Blair]

this is true i wasn't gonna post the pic because of that but i'm carefull with them and find when you have them by the gill plate the likelyhood of dropping them on there head is way less. i have actually been holding fish upside down alot it just seems they are way more docile when doing this, the worst for fish by far is holding them vertical by the gill plate leaving their weight unsupported.

Very true ... and no worries.
I do not think that any of us are PERFECT.


*SMILES*

I've been relying on all the Pharmaceuticals that are in the Water table to keep em docile.

Nothing like having:
Prozac, Zanix, Lithium, Secondal, Morphine ...

 

[hightechdecks]

lol...so that explains why they hit some of the wierd stuff i throw at them......they're stoned. do you know anything about natural reproduction on the Rouge River you seem to be knowledgeable and dig up good reads on the net, guy told me there wasn't any but we cathching a few parr last time out.

 

[JaysonMarion]

Before it closed?


Its still open in that spot until December 31st.

 

[Dozer]

this is creek is rich with sport fishing heritage and deserves way more respect than its been getting from what i see.......BIG PROPS to all the steelheaders if any of you are out there who were involved with the cleanup this year didn't get involved personally in the big push but took out one pretty good load in my pickup in Oct

Thank you for cleaning up. Lots of respect to you. There are a few anglers who routinely clean, they are the real warriors defending our creeks vs. the loogans. The Samuel Wilmot conservation group organizes a clean up every spring and fall but for the most part they clean the shoreline, LOADS of crap drifts from abroad.

Guys, point is, if people keeep up throwing garbage and tossing poop everywhere, our Wilmot, Bowmanville, Oshawa, etc. will be eventually shut down to fishermen. Simple as that, and it is coming. If we don't do our part, we will loose our fishery. I have spoken to a few members of the conservaton group from Wilmot and they are NOT happy wth the anglers, especially once the salmon are running. All the time and effort they have put into creating a beautiful park, planting trees, cleaning, all for what? Bunch of salmon loogans coming and trashing the place they worked so hard to keep up? I'd be pissed.

This fall I setup a garbage picking date for Wilmot, got permission from the conservation group for a place to dump garbage, pruchased gloves, bags, water ( with my own money, and I'm pretty darn poor )... posted on another forum, had a few hits, say perhaps ten people were interested. The forum is a small community. Long story short, one guy shows up, and we hauled over 15 bags of crap over 3 hours. I plan on organizing this event again next year, hopefully the turn out will be better. Less work for me :twisted:

Best thing to do, don't litter on the creek. For a better future for our fishery.

 

[getin]

My hat off to you and those who keep pushing for this. I think the problem is most of those loogans don't read the forum or posts like this. I was thinking that if each one of us, carried like 10 plastic bags and when we see other anglers, give then a bag and ask (gently) f they can carry their garbage in it or even better clean the area they are fishing. It would cost much less than arranging the annual cleanup (gloves, water, etc) and will be more effective in the long term

 

[hightechdecks]

Thank you for cleaning up. Lots of respect to you. There are a few anglers who routinely clean, they are the real warriors defending our creeks vs. the loogans. The Samuel Wilmot conservation group organizes a clean up every spring and fall but for the most part they clean the shoreline, LOADS of crap drifts from abroad.

Guys, point is, if people keeep up throwing garbage and tossing poop everywhere, our Wilmot, Bowmanville, Oshawa, etc. will be eventually shut down to fishermen. Simple as that, and it is coming. If we don't do our part, we will loose our fishery. I have spoken to a few members of the conservaton group from Wilmot and they are NOT happy wth the anglers, especially once the salmon are running. All the time and effort they have put into creating a beautiful park, planting trees, cleaning, all for what? Bunch of salmon loogans coming and trashing the place they worked so hard to keep up? I'd be pissed.

This fall I setup a garbage picking date for Wilmot, got permission from the conservation group for a place to dump garbage, pruchased gloves, bags, water ( with my own money, and I'm pretty darn poor )... posted on another forum, had a few hits, say perhaps ten people were interested. The forum is a small community. Long story short, one guy shows up, and we hauled over 15 bags of crap over 3 hours. I plan on organizing this event again next year, hopefully the turn out will be better. Less work for me :twisted:

Best thing to do, don't litter on the creek. For a better future for our fishery.

i will be in on if forsure, can bring couple simcoe county guys i roll with and a pickup truck, if its still on he road ...lol...
are you sure about that being open its geographically north of hwy 2

 

[JaysonMarion]

Yes its still open until December 31st.

Read the regs. heh.

 

[FrankTheRabbit]

FYI:

Zone 17 (Between 4th Sat. April to Dec. 31): Regional Municipality of Durham - all waters between Hwy. 2 and the southerly limit of the C.N.R. right-of-way.

Open all year: Regional Municipality of Durham - all waters lying between the southerly limit of the C.N.R. right-of-way and Lake Ontario.

Correct me of I'm wrong, but from what I can conclude after reading the regs, anything north of hwy 2 on Wilmot creek is closed.