Why is this reel $800?

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"Winner of the 2010 ICAST - Best of Show in the Freshwater Reel Category - the Shimano Stella FE Spinning Reel Series takes spinning reel performance to the next level yet again. As Shimano’s showcase spinning reel series, all of the technology and features Shimano has at its disposal are included in the Stella FE Series - including Shimano’s latest, industry leading technology. Featuring Shimano’s X-Ship Double Bearing Supported Pinion Gear, the X-Ship system increases the gearing efficiency and power, providing anglers with ultra-light handle rotation. Combined with Shimano’s Paladin Gear Durability Enhancement, anglers will notice out-of-the-box smoothness year-after-year, and a revolutionary E.I. surface treatment on the cold forged aluminum spool greatly resists corrosion - key for saltwater use.
The Stella FE Spinning Reel Series incorporates a long list of proven Shimano features, including the Propulsion Line Management System, which virtually eliminates any line twist and increases casting distance, as well as, SR Concept, Rigid Support System, Aerowrap II, Dyna-Balance and Super Stopper II. All four Stella reels also feature 14 S A-RB shielded anti-rust ball bearings, lightweight magnesium frames and sideplates, a waterproof drag and Septon Handle Grips (paddle grips on the 1000, flat T on the 2500, and Saltwater T on the 3000 and 4000). With the new features and proven track record, the Shimano Stella FE Spinning Reel Series deliver top-of-the-line performance."

Pulled that off their site.. Sounds like a sweet reel but I would not pay 800 for it lol..
 
"Now that that is out of the way, imho if you enjoy using the best, and can afford the best - go for it.

Stella's etc are built for high end applications, chasing marlin, jigging kings etc. In my mind they are the applications you need them for.

My Daiwa GS9 (30 odd years old) still catches fish off the beach. So does my 550 alvey. I bought a nice rod 2nd hand off Lee for throwing light plastics & poppers, and it is a beauty. But I am now "of an age" where I can afford some of the nicer things. Still not sure I would have shelled out for a new one though.

I asked a triathlete mate one day if his $4000 dollar bike went 10 times faster than my $400 one. After asking me if I liked sex and travel, he explained that it was his money, and he really enjoyed that bike. Made sense to me"

best answer out there,
 
I get the whole "i have the money, and want to treat myself to something" mentality. i do it too and quite possibly if i could drop $800 on a reel without thinking twice then i might just becuse, but the blurb that Kit wrote can be summed up in a few laymen terms:

1. It's super smooth
2. It won't rust
3. ???
4. It's seriously super smooth.

Sounds like a ton of marketing but just to field test it, anyone got one i can try? lol
 
Ya most of my reels are in the $70-$120 range and I can't see it being worth it to spend 8 or 9 times more than the reels I already have. I doubt it is 8 or 9 times better.
 
All us steelheaders often drop 500+ on a painted aluminium wheel. Why not 800 for a reel with some gears in it haha
 
i worked as a high precision gear specialist and a gears play a big roll in it. using the best material and cutting gears to the thousands of a inch, it cost a lot like 100$ per gear.

bearings also play a roll in it too. u can buy cheap bearrings for reels for 30$ online. but for the best of the best the cream of the crop your looking at 80$+ for each. so add it all up.

personally i can see why it cost so much.

other than that the winning award thing brought the value of it up too
 
I know a lot of people use them for saltwater. I can kind of see it with the big long runs with saltwater fish and the salt corrosion it might be worth while spending that much. But I can't see it being worth getting for freshwater applications.
 
For some people I guess even $800 is relatively not that much. If you've got a 40k truck, 40k boat, couple dozen combos for the boat and all the gear, fuel, launch fees, what's another 800 for a reel you are going to have utmost confidence in. I'm sure cheaper reels are just as effective, but for people with money on the line they want the best advantage possible. It's not for me, but I wouldn't judge anyone for owning one of those bad boys!
 
i agree, the reel is 800$ for a reason.
one thing i find is that with reels and brandnames its all about what you pay fore. not like technology. a 52' samsung tv is like 1k-2k were as a panisonic or a sharp is about a quarter the price.

each company makes a tone of reels. especially big names. so when ur buying a reel for 50$ its cuz its worth 50$ they wont make a reel and put it for 800$ for the name.
 
I disagree with the above post.
When buying name brand anything, you do pay a certain amount for the name and that is why you are buying it. The extra money you spend on a brand name product stems from the advertising that company does to get people to buy their wares. However, you have to start with a good product to eventually get people to pay more for something made by you.
I love shimano reels, and own quite a few of them in their mid - mid/high price bracket and can tell you that my older currado reel that was made in Japan is a hell of a lot nicer than my more current one that was made in malaysia. Same money, but an inferior product compared to the older unit.
People get brand loyal, and attach dollar value to quality and sometimes they combine for people buying over priced equipment.

That being said, it looks like a nice enough reel and I am sure there must be some kind of market for it or shimano would not be selling it.
 
The stella reel is very very nice, would I buy one, no.....but i know someone that has 3 of them, same person also has 6 stradics, 20 loomis rods (i think 6 or 7 are nrx models plus 2 $1000 spey rods), 8 ross fly reels( 3 or 4 of them being the F1), and a handful of curado and chronarch baitcaster reels.

it all comes down to what you like and what you can afford, some people really appreciate highend gear and can afford it, others like myself, are happy with the midrange gear
 
Nate T said:
I disagree with the above post.
When buying name brand anything, you do pay a certain amount for the name and that is why you are buying it. The extra money you spend on a brand name product stems from the advertising that company does to get people to buy their wares. However, you have to start with a good product to eventually get people to pay more for something made by you.
I love shimano reels, and own quite a few of them in their mid - mid/high price bracket and can tell you that my older currado reel that was made in Japan is a hell of a lot nicer than my more current one that was made in malaysia. Same money, but an inferior product compared to the older unit.
People get brand loyal, and attach dollar value to quality and sometimes they combine for people buying over priced equipment.

That being said, it looks like a nice enough reel and I am sure there must be some kind of market for it or shimano would not be selling it.
well iv bought stuff that was name brand and i didnt like it as much as cheaper things. the cheaper things did better and lasted longer.
in reels you can tell the difference.
i have an abu garcia blackmax2 i paid 60$ and i can tell the difference compared to my friends 200$ baitcasters. when under pressure it will feel smoother than a cheap reel.

a lot of things are more expensive because of the brand name but when it come to certain products its you get what you pay for.
 
just dont look at the price tag and say why so x y z price yada yada..
different applications, different purposes.

its like what DitchWizard said. you guys would drop $500+ for a aluminum hand kite line winder. whats the issue with something with gears and drag? haha

so you basically pay for the quality, durability, also peace of mind.
if you have a PB or prize fish on the end of the line.. the reel has a much less chance for failure.
rods can break, you can still get the fish in. but if the reel breaks, your really screwed.
im not saying these reels dont occasionally break either, they do. but will hold up a hell of a beating before doing so.

my experience comes from the fact, i do own several of these expensive reels,, stellas, saltigas, accurates, jigging master.
and i beat them silly whenever i get a chance, land fish quickly and efficiently. none of that noodle rod, take my time playing him out crap.
try taking your time with a 75lb++ tuna on the line, you will tire before it will.

thats a pic of my 16k Stella, i mainly use for topwater SW fishing; amberjacks, tuna, and other large aggressive game.
and its drag runs smooth consistently into the 40lb + range (all day long without problems) and tested it to about ~57lb.
i dont run it at 57 lockdown, something will definitely break . (measured on a scale)
a cheaper reel wont even consistently push out 15lbs without breaking down eventually.
wont be as smooth and easy turning (fluid), wont be as durable overtime.
not to mention,, the sheer power as you crank the handle. thats something a cheaper reel cannot do.
go to a store, and try the reels. youll understand what i mean if you physically try them.

eventually youll understand why the price difference is so great.
 

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Thanks for the info, eric. That was the point of the question and the thread? What was it that high and is there value or is it just that price because people buy them. Glad to hear they're not all just about the price tag.

That, and i look forward to fighting a 75lb++ tuna one day!! :)
 
Shawarma said:
Thanks for the info, eric. That was the point of the question and the thread? What was it that high and is there value or is it just that price because people buy them. Glad to hear they're not all just about the price tag.

That, and i look forward to fighting a 75lb++ tuna one day!! :)
The 2500 and 3000 size won't be able to handle a 75lb tuna...it may handle a 30lb one but it will probably require a complete overhaul after that one fish. It does handle 10-15lb footballs because my friend Eli fished one and caught a bunch.

You wouldn't even try to play with "bigger" tunas unless you have a 5000-8000 size reel. Popping and jigging tunas more consistently requires 10000-18000 size reels.

The reason why these reels are so expensive...

1) design
2) machined components
3) water resistance

Cheaper reels are made with pot metal. Like someone said, precision machining a gear out of stainless steel or brass is not easy and not cheap.

So are good sealed bearings.

The following link is not pertaining to the FE...it's about a Stella SW...but it goes to show the attention to detail that goes into these high end reels.

http://www.alanhawk.com/reviews/13SW.html

People also gotta ask themselves why they spend $500-1000 on a chunk of machined disk they call a centerpin or a fly reel. The design in those two reels are simple as heck and requires way less components...yet they cost as much if not more than many reels (like a Penn International) that has 3-4 times the parts...

Then again...check this out. I'm already saving up for it. $150 isn't too hard to save up...that's about 100 Timmies...

http://www.alanhawk.com/reviews/lth10.html

Oh look, it's Made in China! Not all Chinese goods are bad...you just gotta know what you are getting.
 

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