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I've heard fish can't hear us talking, talking does not penetrate the water, but they can hear some other sources of noise/vibration that we generate.
 
fishhawk your posting style reminds me of blair! in no way is that a bad thing *SMILES*


Great info. Top notch contributing member.
 
"FishingNoob"

"Mix Between Both"
is what I've ALWAYS Done.

I use mostly Smaller Spoons, Small "Lifelike" Hardbaits, and one of my Favouries "Mr. Twister" on their "Blade Spinner Rigs". Favourite colour is "Chartreuse:"

Wiliams makes the "Wabler" and that is the Correct Spelling. They also make a "Wobbler" but that's a different configuration, has a "Tail" on it.

Mr. Twister has their own WWW Site and they have a HUGE Selection of Products.

Live bait is usually a BIG FAT Dew Worm on a Weedless Harness OR all "Skrunched Up" on a Worm Hook below a Read & White Bobber.
What do you fish for with your smaller spoons. I got one for pike, but I think I got one that is too small. :D

I have a pack of white 3 inch twisters, but haven't had much luck on them rigged on a jig head... Maybe a blade spinner would add some extra action... I saw some at Canadian Tire the other day... Got to love the good ol dew worm! When I started out like I said I fished only dew worms...

I still get a Thrill out of watching that Bobber sit there and all of a sudden ....GONE! or Moving across the water. That's how My Grandfather taught me how to Fish,that probably has something to do with it.

My "All Time Favourite is "Mr. Hula Popper" and His Cousin "Mr. Jitterbug"!! When a bass SMASHES one of them ....YAHOO!!


I know that feeling! I use bobbers when fishing for panfish... I got a hula popper but I think the splash that sucker gives off scares the fish... lol

I also use Glass Rattles on ALL of My Spoons, Epoxied to the Back Side. Also anywhere else I can Glue them or Slide them in on a :Lure or Live Worm.

I read somewhere that a Fishes sense of Hearing is 1,000 Times more "Accute" than a Dogs.

Maybe that's where the Expression "Shut Up And FISH!!" came from??:mellow:

Of course we haven't even touched on Really Big Fish Baits here.

I don't really use spoons but most of my crankbaits have rattles and one of my bass jigs... I wonder what fish think the rattles are...

Later Buddy: Rick

GEEZ!!:blink: Think I got a little Carried Away with all the Pictures!!:huh:

EDIT: Why don't they Post them in the Order that I put them on here? There's a Reason I do That.!!

Thanks Rick. Really appreciate all the hard effort you put into your posts.
 
"FishingNoob"

"Mix Between Both"
is what I've ALWAYS Done.

I use mostly Smaller Spoons, Small "Lifelike" Hardbaits, and one of my Favouries "Mr. Twister" on their "Blade Spinner Rigs". Favourite colour is "Chartreuse:"

Wiliams makes the "Wabler" and that is the Correct Spelling. They also make a "Wobbler" but that's a different configuration, has a "Tail" on it.

Mr. Twister has their own WWW Site and they have a HUGE Selection of Products.

Live bait is usually a BIG FAT Dew Worm on a Weedless Harness OR all "Skrunched Up" on a Worm Hook below a Read & White Bobber.
What do you fish for with your smaller spoons. I got one for pike, but I think I got one that is too small. :D

I have a pack of white 3 inch twisters, but haven't had much luck on them rigged on a jig head... Maybe a blade spinner would add some extra action... I saw some at Canadian Tire the other day... Got to love the good ol dew worm! When I started out like I said I fished only dew worms...

I still get a Thrill out of watching that Bobber sit there and all of a sudden ....GONE! or Moving across the water. That's how My Grandfather taught me how to Fish,that probably has something to do with it.

My "All Time Favourite is "Mr. Hula Popper" and His Cousin "Mr. Jitterbug"!! When a bass SMASHES one of them ....YAHOO!!


I know that feeling! I use bobbers when fishing for panfish... I got a hula popper but I think the splash that sucker gives off scares the fish... lol

I also use Glass Rattles on ALL of My Spoons, Epoxied to the Back Side. Also anywhere else I can Glue them or Slide them in on a :Lure or Live Worm.

I read somewhere that a Fishes sense of Hearing is 1,000 Times more "Accute" than a Dogs.

Maybe that's where the Expression "Shut Up And FISH!!" came from??:mellow:

Of course we haven't even touched on Really Big Fish Baits here.

I don't really use spoons but most of my crankbaits have rattles and one of my bass jigs... I wonder what fish think the rattles are...

Later Buddy: Rick

GEEZ!!:blink: Think I got a little Carried Away with all the Pictures!!:huh:

EDIT: Why don't they Post them in the Order that I put them on here? There's a Reason I do That.!!

Thanks Rick. Really appreciate all the hard effort you put into your posts.

P.S - Has any one caught fish on a texas-rigged senko? I tried it and got nothing, seems like there is no action to the lure.
 
Whatttttt no action? A trigged senko is full of action, have you seen the fall? the subtle wobble. Ive caught countless fish throwing a trigged senko, if cover is too thick for wacky trig shines

The key to throwing a senko is fishing it on a slack line, dont over work the bait. The less you do the better in most cases
 
FishHawk: Great posts, I'll definitely take some time to look at all you've shared.

Noob: What size worm/hook are you using? The worm could be too small for the hook size. Alternatively, even if the sizes are right, you might be rigging it too far down the body. Try and leave 3/4 or at least 2/3 of the body/tail free swimming and you might have better luck imparting some movement on your bait. You don't need that much movement on a lot of plastics, they are usually designed to tremble slightly without any obvious action from the rod so aside from the wobble that comes from the free fall and the slow wiggle you get when you twitch the rod you don't always need that much. If none of this works for you and you find more action = more strikes where you fish then you can try and switch to something with a thin, curled tail.

P.S. I find small spoons (under 2") great minnow and baitfish immitators and really enjoy fishing with them too. Haven't tried them with a rattle but that is a solid idea. If you use larger split rings you can create more jingling which can help attract fish but a full on rattle must be deadly in murky water when fish are aggresive.

Cheers!
 
Whatttttt no action? A trigged senko is full of action, have you seen the fall? the subtle wobble. Ive caught countless fish throwing a trigged senko, if cover is too thick for wacky trig shines

The key to throwing a senko is fishing it on a slack line, dont over work the bait. The less you do the better in most cases

Yea tons of action on the fall when wacky rigged... What's a trigged senko??? All I did was let it sink, then pull it along the ground a bit, reel in slack and continue.
 
Noob: What size worm/hook are you using? The worm could be too small for the hook size. Alternatively, even if the sizes are right, you might be rigging it too far down the body. Try and leave 3/4 or at least 2/3 of the body/tail free swimming and you might have better luck imparting some movement on your bait. You don't need that much movement on a lot of plastics, they are usually designed to tremble slightly without any obvious action from the rod so aside from the wobble that comes from the free fall and the slow wiggle you get when you twitch the rod you don't always need that much. If none of this works for you and you find more action = more strikes where you fish then you can try and switch to something with a thin, curled tail.

P.S. I find small spoons (under 2") great minnow and baitfish immitators and really enjoy fishing with them too. Haven't tried them with a rattle but that is a solid idea. If you use larger split rings you can create more jingling which can help attract fish but a full on rattle must be deadly in murky water when fish are aggresive.

Cheers!

Thanks for all that info! I'm not sure what hook size I am using, but I think it is like a 3/0 or 4/0 for a 6 inch worm... The plastics I mostly fish are swimbaits, craws and other plastics where I just reel in and add a few jerks. I might have to give the senko's another try.
 
Everything deserves a second chance eh Noob!

Your hook size seems spot on. Are you adding weight to it? Adding weight to a t-rigged senko isn't recommended because it can negatively impact the action. If you wanna hit the bottom with a senko dead sticking it wacky or using a carolina rig might be a better option. Good luck!
 
Everything deserves a second chance eh Noob!

Your hook size seems spot on. Are you adding weight to it? Adding weight to a t-rigged senko isn't recommended because it can negatively impact the action. If you wanna hit the bottom with a senko dead sticking it wacky or using a carolina rig might be a better option. Good luck!
I normally add a free sliding bullet weight but now I know better. Thanks. Now I just gotta wait till June..
 
I normally add a free sliding bullet weight but now I know better. Thanks. Now I just gotta wait till June..

Well if you're adding a weight to a t-rigged senko or any other t-rigged slim plastic the sliding bullet is the way to go IMO (you sure you're a noob?? lol). Be sure to let me know how it goes for you in June...darn I miss bassin lol...
 
I agree with basser, The only time you want to have weight on your senko is if youre fishing deep water or heavy cover.

When you fish the senko weightless whether it be trigged or wacky its a great search lure imo, because of its slow enticing fall it will call in fish from a distance. Patience is key with the senko, I'll usually comb through an area with a jig, if I get no bites i'll throw out the senko and sure enough Ive got a fish on.

During a tournament last year fishing was slow for me in the morning, didnt have a bite and it was already 11 oclock. Time was starting to worry me.I took out a baitcaster I have rigged with a trigged senko and I was bombing it out as far as I could. once it hit water I stripped lots of line from my reel and let it soak, everytime I went to raise my tip after letting it soak I had a fish on, ended up boating 4 all 3.5+ in the matter of 10 minutes.

Getting that last fish to make a limit was a whole other story....
 
Well if you're adding a weight to a t-rigged senko or any other t-rigged slim plastic the sliding bullet is the way to go IMO (you sure you're a noob?? lol). Be sure to let me know how it goes for you in June...darn I miss bassin lol...

Ya. I'm pretty sure. Check out the date I joined the site. That is the date I started fishing. I mean fishing hard...
 
I agree with basser, The only time you want to have weight on your senko is if youre fishing deep water or heavy cover.

I normally wacky rig my senkos weight less... but the only time I texas rigged em was also when I was fishing 10 feet and nothing else in my tackle bag was working... I thought a weight would be good here... I'll try no weight next time. Thanks.

When you fish the senko weightless whether it be trigged or wacky its a great search lure imo, because of its slow enticing fall it will call in fish from a distance. Patience is key with the senko, I'll usually comb through an area with a jig, if I get no bites i'll throw out the senko and sure enough Ive got a fish on.

During a tournament last year fishing was slow for me in the morning, didnt have a bite and it was already 11 oclock. Time was starting to worry me.I took out a baitcaster I have rigged with a trigged senko and I was bombing it out as far as I could. once it hit water I stripped lots of line from my reel and let it soak, everytime I went to raise my tip after letting it soak I had a fish on, ended up boating 4 all 3.5+ in the matter of 10 minutes.

Getting that last fish to make a limit was a whole other story....

Second place??? I cast wacky rigged green top, white bottom senko's into holes in lilly pads and get some nice bass. I think they think it is a frog or something swimming down... Works great!
 
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