OPP

[BowSlayer]

my dad was on the phone with a friend of his, that is from the U.S., he was driving in Thunder Bay this afternoon to visit family for the holidays, he had one of those police trackers but it was turned off, not even connected to the adapter. Then he notices an OPP driving near him for sometime, the OPP speeds up, passes him, then turns the lights on, signalling for him to pull over. He pulls over and asks "Whats wrong sir?" turns out it was a women with a very short haircut and a very manly looking face, she got so pi$$ed at him, thinking he had said that intentionally, he tried to say sorry and explain that he wasn't trying to hurt her feelings or anything. Then she saids "sir, are you aware that using a police tracker is illegal in Ontario?" He saids yes, but it was not turned on, you could check if you want, as you can see i have a Wyoming license plate. She saids, "that does not matter, you still had it in your vehicle, so you will still get a fine". He tried to argue but it was no use, then she saids "i not only have to give you a fine but i have to take away your device too" (witch btw costs around 300 bucks!) just another example of what kind of police we have here in Ontario! :neutral: makes mew worry, funny thing is, he was driving in Saskatchewan and Manitoba with it, where police saw it and didn't do crap! don't we have wonderful highway police here in Ontario?! lol, not trying to accuse any officer or the OPP here, more then likely this was just a bad officer but its still an example.

 

[Klik]

In your head, a device that is called "POLICE TRACKER" does not sound illegal to you? why would you need to track the police if you were not doing anything illegal? also be thankful our police are this good and keep all of us safe.

 

[BowSlayer]

its legal in the U.S. i don't think its called a police tracker, i just forgot the name for it, he wasn't using it here and i don't see the need of taking it away from him and giving him a ticket, when he wasn't ben using it, but thats just my opinion, i have seen OPP do stupid stuff many times, like speeding without lights on, or truing on lights just to cut in front of some traffic to get to a coffee shop about 1km ahead, there are good cops out there and there are bad cops out there, you be the judge but i really don't think the action taken was necessary and in the U.S., they sell these devices at every travel plaza and gas station, it just beeps if there is a signal ahead, not necessarily a police signal, but it just warns you of a signal, may or not be a cop, but you just slow down when it warns you, so you don't get caught, come to think of it, if he DID have it on, he never would of gotten into this mess anyways, lol.

 

[Klik]

guns are legal down there also, if he had a loaded gun but was not shooting anyone, then it should of been ok to have it?

also he would of gotten caught, how did the opp find out he even had it in the first place, even though it was turned off. so they probably have devices that can track those kinds of things?


logic goes same as if you lived in zone X, but you went fishing in a different zone Y that had lower limits, while you driving through you get stopped by mnr, then say to the CO that cause you live in a zone X with higher limit you kept the fish amounting to your zone. lets see what happens with that.

 

[hamiltonangler94]

Plain and simple if he is driving in Ontario, he is obligated to follow our laws and regulations. Also me and my family have had very good experiences with the OPP, just be thankful we have such an expert service patrolling our province. Oh Klik, guns are legal up here also, sorry I just had to point that out

 

[Klik]

Plain and simple if he is driving in Ontario, he is obligated to follow our laws and regulations. Also me and my family have had very good experiences with the OPP, just be thankful we have such an expert service patrolling our province. Oh Klik, guns are legal up here also, sorry I just had to point that out

i should of made my self clear. in a holster, on your lap, near you, on the seat, specially hand gun. i was talking about out in the open. not concealed in a box locked and carried around.

there is a lot of regulations that need to be followed while transporting a gun.

 

[BASSMASTER19]

i heard you need a permit just to take it out of the house

 

[hamiltonangler94]

Haha fair enough Klik....I own a bunch of long guns and Im allowed to transport them in my car, I just have to make sure they have a trigger lock, they're unloaded and they're secure....and I don't know the transporting rules behind transporting a handgun but ya its alot more strict.

 

[Rain-Bow]

lol@police tracker

Your dad's friend should have checked the law before driving around with something like that. Good thing he wasn't carrying weed too, cause I hear that's now legal in some states lol

 

[BowSlayer]

guns are legal down there also, if he had a loaded gun but was not shooting anyone, then it should of been ok to have it?

also he would of gotten caught, how did the opp find out he even had it in the first place, even though it was turned off. so they probably have devices that can track those kinds of things?


logic goes same as if you lived in zone X, but you went fishing in a different zone Y that had lower limits, while you driving through you get stopped by mnr, then say to the CO that cause you live in a zone X with higher limit you kept the fish amounting to your zone. lets see what happens with that.

klik the device was undetectable, the cop just spotted it, while driving on the highway, she was looking specifically for that device, because she saw the U.S. license plate, pretty much everyone in the U.S. has one, i think he could of left it at home, so it is partially his fault, but come on like, it was turned off, no battery, only reason he had it with him, is because he was driving through the states in order to get to Canada, Rainbow, lol, don't laugh, i don't know what those thingies are called! Also Klik, its not really like keeping fish in one zone and then a co stops you while driving, the law states, it is prohibited to use this device in Ontario, BUT, he wasn't using that and that can easily be proven even by the officer, because she saw it had no battery, I'm not really saying he did the right thing, but really come on, do you think the officer did the right thing, by taking away a 300 dollar device and giving him a 150 dollar ticket, when he wasn't even using the device?

 

[salmotrutta]

klik the device was undetectable, the cop just spotted it, while driving on the highway, she was looking specifically for that device, because she saw the U.S. license plate, pretty much everyone in the U.S. has one, i think he could of left it at home, so it is partially his fault, but come on like, it was turned off, no battery, only reason he had it with him, is because he was driving through the states in order to get to Canada, Rainbow, lol, don't laugh, i don't know what those thingies are called! Also Klik, its not really like keeping fish in one zone and then a co stops you while driving, the law states, it is prohibited to use this device in Ontario, BUT, he wasn't using that and that can easily be proven even by the officer, because she saw it had no battery, I'm not really saying he did the right thing, but really come on, do you think the officer did the right thing, by taking away a 300 dollar device and giving him a 150 dollar ticket, when he wasn't even using the device?

She sounds deranged, there are decent cops and ones like her, this guy got unlucky.

It's called a radar detector. She might have had a radar detector detector, but I'm not an expert and if it was turned off, it may not have been detectable by her detector.

 

[Joel52]

If you don't speed, you don't even need to use one of those radar detectors. Think about it - the only reason you want to own one of those is to willfully break the law. In the U.S., radars are set at much lower tolerances than in Ontario. Speeding is defined as anything over the limit, and they can ticket you for that. Most OPP will set their radars at 20 over. If you drive 10-15 over, they're just not interested. I think you can fight tickets in the 8-10kmphr over the limit range and win. Also, I think there's more to this story - there's two sides to every story, and then there's the truth. Circumstance is everything...

 

[Sparta]

If you don't speed, you don't even need to use one of those radar detectors. Think about it - the only reason you want to own one of those is to willfully break the law. In the U.S., radars are set at much lower tolerances than in Ontario. Speeding is defined as anything over the limit, and they can ticket you for that. Most OPP will set their radars at 20 over. If you drive 10-15 over, they're just not interested. I think you can fight tickets in the 8-10kmphr over the limit range and win. Also, I think there's more to this story - there's two sides to every story, and then there's the truth. Circumstance is everything...

x2

 

[redneckchromer]

OPP are great to deal with IMO. its those city pigs that are corrupt. but honestly your buddy has no chance at fighting that ticket, scanners are illegal no matter what lol thats like having a dozen worms in your vest on the upper grand and saying to a C.O " i swear i wasnt gonna put any of those worms on my hook!"

 

[Dozer]

:lol: Just got unlucky getting a short haired manly looking woman and calling her "sir". I've found OPP to be the friendliest and easiest to deal with. I've been randomly pulled over, gone through RIDES and they've always been human. Lucky for him it wasn't a Peel or Durham officer...

 

[BowSlayer]

I've heard that they are the worst up in Thunder Bay, theres like 3 houses in the whole city and a police station, lol, he's not gonna try to fight the ticket, he has no time to deal with them, I've dealt with durham officers many times and they are not too bad, the worst I've seen was near North Bay, i just think that they at least should have given the device back to him, it is legal in every state in the U.S., but taking it away and giving him a ticket, that is too harsh. Its easy to see if it was turned on, it shows when you turn it on, how png it has been on and stuff like that but it wasn't even plugged in when she stopped him, she knew it wasn't turned on but she said, just because you had it and its not legal, you get a fine and the device taken away, I'm not really on anyones side, just saying that i think the officer could've handled it better.

 

[Alfiegee]

:lol: Just got unlucky getting a short haired manly looking woman and calling her "sir". I've found OPP to be the friendliest and easiest to deal with. I've been randomly pulled over, gone through RIDES and they've always been human. Lucky for him it wasn't a Peel or Durham officer...

Ya , grew up in Peel and until my mid-20s. I used to get stopped almost every night walking home from my work on an afternoon shift. Often the same cop.
After the first week I learned not to smoke anything til I got home. I have heard that due to the airport, Peel has almost the highest amount of cops per capita in Canada after Vancouver.

Alfie.

 

[Alfiegee]

To be truthful now. I do fish with a friend whose daughter belongs to Peel Regional. She fishes with us too and does have the short "manly" haircut.
She is very nice, at least while fishing.

Alfie.

 

[BowSlayer]

ya but this was in Thunder Bay, not Peel region, lol.

 

[code85]

It's legal to have radar detectors in certain provinces. ie BC, Alberta, and Saskatchewan

It's actually not the first time of me hearing OPP giving a fine and confiscating radar units. If you're friend can prove that it wasn't operational at the time then he MAY get off from the fine or even get the unit back when fighting in court. But please don't go on my word for this, just read on forums awhile back and this thread reminded me of it.

My advice will be; research, research, research.